Nicky barnes frank lucas interview

I interviewed frank lucas several times in the mid70s including in the times cafeteria for a possible book. Frank and nicky both confirmed that frank had the better price as far cost goes. Miss jones interviews the real american gangster frank lucas. During the harlem heroin plague of the seventies, few dealers were bigger than frank lucas and leroy nicky barnes. Nicky barnes, new york drug lord known as mr untouchable. Lucas only trusted relatives and close friends from north carolina to handle his various heroin operations. Real american gangster frank lucas talks about hanging with diddys dad, possible sequel. Nicky barnes died in 2012 in witness protection program. Nicky barnes s lifestyle and his value system is extinct, he went on, speaking of himself in the third person in a restaurant interview with the new york times in 2007. During the interview with lucas and former heroin dealer nicky mr. Untouchable, died in 2012 at the age of 78 while in the witness protection program, according to the new york times. Both were locked up and later cooperated with authoritiessome might call it snitching. Special fourth of july edition frank lucas, who was immortalized in the movie american gangster, was born in north carolina on september 9th, 1930.

Untouchable barnes, barnes admitted to reporter jacobson that he himself had informed against other gangsters. The whole interview is fascinating, and even though i think theyre proud of their mythology, especially the two movies about their lives, frank lucas and nicky barnes are smart enough to at least appear sorry nicky barnes. Nicky barnes s lifestyle and his value system is extinct. Will smith is trading in his familyfriendly aura and big blockbuster stardom to portray american crime boss nicky barnes in a biopic for netflix called the council. In 1972, barnes formed the council, a sevenman africanamerican organized crime syndicate that controlled a significant part of the heroin trade in. Howard asked nicky if he knew frank lucas, the subject of american gangster, so nicky explained that he did and frank was a less powerful dealer than nicky, despite what the movie depicts. Nicky barnes, 78, flamboyant heroin kingpin who taunted. Daughters of rival drug kings unite the new york times. Real american gangster frank lucas talks about hanging. For the australian water polo player, see nicky barnes water polo. More malice the deluxe edition and movie available now. Even though nicky barnes was a notorious drug lord, he was a folk hero for many, especially in his home of harlem, new york. The accompanying text employed a nickname he acquired after beating two state drug cases.

Born in the south bronx in 1947, drug kingpin guy fisher became part of nicky barnes s underground organization, the council, at. How i found out nicky barnes was dead the new york times. Untouchable nicky barnes died seven years ago and no. Everyone is just learning that the drug kingpin died in 2012. They interview several rivals of frank lucas, who debunk many of the depictions in the movie. But then came that photo on the cover of the june 5, 1977 edition of the new york times magazine. Near the end of the segment, frank is asked if he has any regrets. Frank lucas and nicky barnes once ruled the drug trade in harlem. Our prosecutors are making deals with monsters by john p. Lucas thought they were less likely to steal from him. In a 2007 interview with the times, barnes said, nicky barnes is not around anymore.

By then he was a grandfather who worked 40hour weeks after entering witness protection in 1998. While some people may think that frank lucas was one of the biggest heroin kingpins in new york during the 1970s after american gangster was. I wanted to be donald trump rich, and so help me god, i made it. Leroy nicholas nicky barnes born october 15, 1933 is an american former criminal drug lord and crime boss, later turned government informant, who led. He was so appalled at being eclipsed that he struck preemptively. Howard got leroy nicky barnes on the phone from an undisclosed location, as nickys currently in the witness protection program. Nicky barnes sentenced herbie sperling interview by tmgprez. The movie focused on barnes rival, frank lucas, which the times reported was a source of irritation barnes was born and raised in harlem, above, during a march in 1968 along east 116th street. When jacobson asked lucas, do you think theres a time when its good to cooperate.

Not much was known as to what happened to him, but now his daughter has revealed barnes, who was known in law enforcement circles as mr. Lucas likewise expresses no love for his more famous harlem dopedealer rival nicky barnes, who rankled the older pusher by appearing on the cover of the new york times magazine in his trademark. A conversation between frank lucas and nicky barnes. His story was immortalized in the movie american gangster in which lucas was portrayed by denzel washington. She said it was like hearing the real interview with a vampire.

Nicky barnes lifestyle and his value system is extinct, he continued, speaking of himself in the third person during a restaurant interview with the new york times in 2007. One detail the film failed to expose about frank was his baring witness to the death of his twelve year old male cousin at the. Peter landesman is writing the script for the film, which tells the untold story of a crime syndicate consisting of the seven black men who ruled harlem in the. Whether nicky barnes says that frank lucas is a liar while frank lucas bragging about being bumpy johnsons driver for fifteen years his widow disputes that and these two washed up women battling out over whose the original american gangster wife, the fact remains that a community like harlem which is known for its rich renaissance history is destroyed because of these two men. His rival, frank lucas of american gangster fame, did the same but focused his brothers, the country boy,s mainly in the bronx to avoid ruffling the feathers of barnes. As his two daughters tell it in their first extensive interview.

The council was an africanamerican organized crime syndicate in new york city that controlled the heroin trade in the harlem area of the city during the 1970s. Formed by nicky barnes in 1972, the sevenman organization ran the heroin trade in harlem, handled local criminal disputes, and solved other issues related to the drug trade. The police say he may be harlems biggest drug dealer. Will smith to play nyc crime boss nicky barnes in netflix. Barnes was released from prison in august 1998, at age 64. During his criminal career, barnes had one big rival. A far bigger and wealthier drug dealer than the better known nicky barnes and more famous frank lucas, frank matthews born 1944 was in a league of his own. Frank lucas comes off more as a formidable, yet mid level harlem operator given to flamboyance, and cutting against the grain of many of the things washingtons character railed against in the movie. There was a corrections officer who said that frank lucas went to one of the other corrections officers and told him that nicky barnes was down there, and he was trying to set him up. Barnes had, indeed, been sentenced to life imprisonment in 1978, but by the early 1980s he could no longer reconcile life in the federal penitentiary in marion, ill. He was a junkie that went on to ultimately get it, in turn destroying communities of color while his balance sheet grew daily. In a joint interview with rival drug kingpin frank lucas in new york magazine, barnes explained that he became a federal witness after feeling betrayed by.

Frank lucas, nicky barnes and the cult of american patriotism. The report of barnes death came a week after the death at 88 of frank lucas, a rival harlem heroin kingpin of the same era who was was the lead character in the 2007 film, played by denzel. Nicky barnes is the real american gangster howard stern. Separating fact from fiction in the boxoffice smash. Leroy nicholas barnes october 15, 1933 june 18, 2012 was an american crime boss, active in new york city during the 1970s. In the 60s and 70s, harlem and the bronx were plagued by two notorious drug kingpins, frank lucas and nicky barnes. Hollywood never made a bigbudget about barnes, and. No one should be elevated because of what they did in the drug business. Did nicky barnes have more money than frank lucas answers.